At some point she was finished with the relationship and iced him out. He and Shanann began to fight. Cans Natz. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. This case does offer a caution to other couples to communicate openly from both sides, whether from the side being overly controlling or the side that is crushed-in, and being controlled. He comes across as predatory and basic. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. Just Published! Why do you need film footage of that? Shanann Watts and her younger brother, Frankie Rzucek, were raised in Aberdeen, N.C. Chris Watts is also from North Carolina, and he married Shanann Watts in the state back in 2010. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. Shanann Watts, the Colorado woman who was recently killed along with her two young daughters, was previously married to a man named Chris Watts. Shanann Watts was born on January 10, 1984 in Clifton, New Jersey, USA. It was a part of his responsibility. in the future. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . Youre right, Emma, about there being a lack of grief. After he strangled her Chris said. I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. And her house that everyone is talking about? He has This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Just so sad. He is also reportedly back in touch with Kessinger, who changed her name after the murders, per Daily Mail. Well, she shouldnt have . According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! He wants to fade into the background. In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. In November 2017, Shanann posted a video to her Facebook pageto celebrate their anniversary. In 2015, Shanann and Chris Watts filed for bankruptcy, listing their liabilities at $400,000. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. They were facing financial ruin and so, to admit they werent thriving meant a further lose of income. Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? Then he met and married Shannan and did whatever she told him to do. Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. Yes, she did want to have the good things in life. In August of this year, Shanann Watts' marriage was crumbling. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. Chris pleaded guilty to the crimes that . Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. He had policies on his kids and wife. Strangely he could not give the exact date or year they got married. (He was moved out of Colorado for security reasons.). Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. Learn the difference. American Murder provides insight into Shanann & Chris's marriage, as well as their struggles with communication & parenting. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. In April 2013, Shanann and Chris moved with her family to Frederic, Colorado, and bought a five-bedroom, four-bathroom house at 2825 Saratoga Trail on a loan of $392,709. There isnt a loss like it. Not a popular opinion. I dont know who he is, she texted a friend on Aug. 7, 2018. thats all she cared about period. Place Where Shanann Watts Children were Hidden. Due to financial reasons, Wyndham Hill Master Association Inc., Shanann and Chris homeowners association filed a suit against them for a fee of $1,533 in July 2018. In an interview with Dr.Phil, Chris lawyer told how Chris killed his daughters. I can also see just a natural tendency for women to support another woman in a scenario where the man is cheating. This was supposed to trigger the annihilation that followed. One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. Does anyone one have photos of it? At present, the house is valued $583,500 (as of 2020). If she hated him so much, why didnt she leave him? Photo: Facebook, Netflix Her first marriage lasted approximately the same amount of time. It all goes back to SW having a similar strong personality to CWs mom, that is probably the sole reason CWs mom didnt like SW. Called him a wierdo one one of her nauseating THRIVE pitches. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. But I could be wrong. 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Its clear from a thorough analysis of all the discovery and both confessions that Watts was trying to separate from his wife in the weeks and months before the murders, going back as far as a year [close to when Kessinger allegedly made that first Google search for Shanann Watts. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? Chilling photos show stained clothes Shanann Watts was wearing when she was murdered and buried in shallow grave by husband The clothing did not match what Shanann Watts was wearing in. Only parents can say that. Said, he refused couples counseling., Shanann was expecting a son they planned to name Niko. Chris, we are so incredibly blessed to have you! she wrote. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. That router article is amazing work Nick! But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. The documentary, entitled American Murder: The Family Next Door, began streaming on September 30. I like your thoughts too, Holly. Often that doesnt come across very popular, and some people dont like what they hear. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. Height [1]IMDb jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_1').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_1', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], });: 5 5. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. Part of HuffPost Crime. She ruled EVERY aspect of their lives and he complied with it all. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. I just thank God he took the right She would contact CW and NKs employer outing them and she would stir up ANY kind of shit she could even if it would be detrimental to her own children. And this seems to be the word he prefers to use. At all. "7 years ago I fell in love with you, 5 years ago I married my best friend, my soul mate, I married you!!" She worked at the hospital till 2016, and then, joined as an independent representative for Le-vel, a company that markets Thrive health and wellness products. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 She appeared to think her daughters, ages three and four, posed the doll Shanann and the two girls were all killed days. Shanann Watts Chris Watts familyhttps://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts/photosCredit: Shanann Watts/Facebook, Chris Wattsdivorcehair jazzSeparationTimeline. Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. NK would have gotten old to him after a while just like SW did. lts only one way emotions and feelings. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. She loved dogs and had a dachshund named Dieter. After Shananns death and Chris arrest, Dieter was kept at a friends house and later went to live with her brother, Frankie. She obviously would have felt comfortable enough to leave her girls with him, to leave him for a weekend, etc. He figured Ill get what I want and she has a hard time getting pregnant so it will never happen. And we know when Shanann returned from Phoenix that night she was still hoping to woo Watts back into the marriage, hence the planned trip to Aspen the following weekend, the love letter, the self-help book and the imminent gender reveal. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. And yet we know while this was happening Shanann still wanted to do a gender reveal. she captioned. Once you start, like with everything that unfolded and spiraled out of control, you cant stop or turn back. Another type of family killer to look at would be DISAPPOINTED KILLERS or people who believe they have been let down by those around themmostly their partner and children. He probably grew up doing whatever she told him to do. Chris likes other people calling the shots. She even brings it up again in the love letter she left for him. Chris Watts opened up about the many cracks in his marriage shortly after being sentenced to life in prison without parole for murdering his family. I get really frustrated with people who peddle multi level marketing crap and expect their friends and family to subsidize their lifestyle through buying crap they dont want. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. Totally depressed, unable to eat or sleep and wondering how she was going to make it on her own. Shanann was born to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife Shanann and their two daughters three years ago, a still-shocking crime that shattered those who thought they knew the picture-perfect young family. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. Interesting none-the-less. She was an independent representative for the multi-level marketing company Le-Vel. And once she was done she cut him out of her life. Kessinger says something to same effect, that Watts wanted to sell his home, but not right away. . He remarried and has kids. It seemed choreographed. Im sure not uncommon for cheaters. When nobody answered the doorbell, Nickole notified Chris who was at work, and also called the Frederick Police Department. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. You seem to like the psychopath label. Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. They argued and he strangled her. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. She was desperate when she realized he was done. At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. Before drilling further into this question, we need to be clear about the difference between divorce and separation. That last picture here Watts looks like the wolf in sheeps clothing, baring one of his canine teeth. I like nice things and having nice experiences. The baby was a way of Chris Watts wanting sex so instead of just asking for sex he says why dont we try for another child. I agree on all counts. I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. Nothing out of the box. So they had been together only 8 years and 3 day at the time on that fatal morning. Taylor, "We will get together when I get home". They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. How old was she when she married, how long did it last? Even though the. At TCRS we dont try to take anyones side, were just trying to figure out what happened. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. He described how he did it. Reportedly, the documentary consists of the archival footage of the case with no narration or enactment; it also includes social media posts, law enforcement recordings, text messages, and home videos. In addition to the murder charges for Shanann and his daughters, he also pleaded guilty . Its for a specified amount of time I believe. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. Coupled with his need to be dependent, the savior/hero and narcissistic (tendencies); he realized he was outmatched and probably felt claustrophobic, trapped, etc. On to your other pointsyes and no to CW being spinelesswhile he was having an affair AND it gave him his first taste of new freedom and excitement that would have quickly worn off once there wasnt a secret to keep/hide. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . Chris had his $5 million bails revoked after this and was remanded to custody immediately. Its 2018, but in many families there is still shame associated with being a victim of domestic violence, and survivors often try to put a good face on the relationship, said Kim Gandy, president of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. On the day of his arrest, Chris was fired from his job. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, this link [an extended version of the clip above], the best thing that has ever happened to her, https://crimerocket2.com/2020/10/08/frank-rzuceks-letter-to-detective-baumhover-on-his-observations-of-chris-watts-deteriorating-relationship-with-bella-and-ceecee/. In an interview with a local news station on Tuesday, Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. To her credit she was, and she did. Shannon too did a lot for the family. 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